Strategies of Economic Policy-Making: Canada/United States
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- The Empire Club of Canada Addresses (Toronto, Canada), 26 Nov 1981, p. 124-139
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- Slater, Dr. David W., Speaker
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- Distortions and inefficiences in the Canada and United States economies matter, even in the days of interest rates, inflation, and unemployment. Government policies as the cause or support of the inefficiences. Substantial payoffs over the medium-term by changes in government policies. Elements of reform that need to work together. An identification of a number of distortions and inefficiences in each of the economies; reasons for them; opportunities for improvement. This discussion proceeds under the following headings: The Older Utilities—Railroads, Electric Generation, Gas Production and Distribution; Airlines and Trucking and Taxi-Cabs; Financial Institutions and Saving; The Skeleton of Growth: Infrastructure; Footing the Bills; Coping with Inflation. Concluding remarks point to other areas for reform; a priority list for the U.S. and Canada; and an appeal to look back over where we have been, to see what we have done and learn from our experiences; to be prepared to look realistically to the future.
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- NOVEMBER 26, 1981
Strategies of Economic Policy-Making: Canada/United States
AN ADDRESS BY Dr. David W. Slater, CHAIRMAN, ECONOMIC COUNCIL OF CANADA
CHAIRMAN The President,
BGen. S.F. Andrunyk, O.M.M., C. D.BGEN. ANDRUNYK:
Honoured guests, members and friends of The Empire Club of Canada: The Canadian humorist Stephen Leacock once said of economists that "apprehension is their business." Economists, as well as most Canadians, are indeed apprehensive about the state of the Canadian economy, with high interest rates, rising inflation and falling productivity all appearing to be beyond our control. Public apprehension before such alarming signs is only natural, but it is my belief that it also points to the fact that Canadians are quickly being pushed to a point where they will have to make and implement a number of crucial decisions.
Those words, ladies and gentlemen, are not mine but those of our guest speaker today, Dr. David W. Slater, Chairman of the Economic Council of Canada. They appear in his introduction to the Council's 1980-1981 Annual Report.
Dr. Slater was born and raised in Winnipeg where he graduated from the University of Manitoba with a Bachelor of Commerce degree in 1942. Like most from his generation he did not get an opportunity to put his new found profession to practice because immediately upon graduation he joined the Canadian Army Active Force, serving in North West Europe with distinction until the end of World War II. On demobilization he continued his studies, receiving advanced degrees in economics from Queen's University and the University of Chicago where he also earned his Doctorate in 1957.
Dr. Slater enjoyed a very successful academic career between 1946 and 1973 holding the position of lecturer at Queen's and Stanford Universities; Dean of the School of Graduate Studies and Research at Queen's University, President of York University in Toronto for three years before being appointed General Director, Fiscal Policy and Economic Analysis Branch, Department of Finance in 1973.
In 1978 Dr. Slater became a Director of the Economic Council of Canada and became its Chairman in September of last year.
It is my pleasure to welcome Dr. Slater to the Empire Club and to invite him to address us on the strategies of economic policy-making in Canada as they compare with those in the United States.
DR. SLATER:
Ladies and gentlemen: I could discuss with you the economics of inflation and growth, and the use of the "big levers" of monetary policy, fiscal policy, and exchange rate policy in the two countries. Or I could discuss with you industrial strategies in the sense of government roles in picking industries that are expected to be winners and losers. Both of these subjects are important. But I am not going to say much about either, partly because you have already heard a good deal about them.
I am going to address instead a more traditional set of economic issues, those concerning distortions and inefficiencies in economies. What are some of the important ones around? What role have government policies played in their development? What can be done about them?
In tackling this subject I realize that there is a risk of being seen as irrelevant. I am reminded of a story told me by the first of my post-war teachers who had by then become a vigorous proselytizer for Keynesian demand management. In Kingston in the early 1930s there was a study group of the Workers' Educational Movement. My mentor, Frank Knox, used to try to explain to that group the economic problems that had emerged, and the policy advice which he and the profession had to offer to improve the economic efficiency of the Canadian economy. With the deepening of the depression, the believability of his argument diminished and so did the group's interest. Could economic efficiency matter when unemployment rates ran over twenty per cent, and bankruptcy and collapse were rampant? You can understand why my friend switched his interest in economics and the advice he offered thereafter.
Do distortions and inefficiencies in the Canadian and United States economies really matter nowadays compared with interest rates, inflation, and unemployment? I am going to argue that they do matter, that the burden of distortions and inefficiencies is now a heavy one, that government policies cause or support a large part of the inefficiencies, and that changes in government policies can yield payoffs over the medium-term that are substantial.
Even if I am right, why talk about these things as elements of a strategy? Essentially because it is important to pick out a limited number of important items for policy attention, and to get these elements of reform working together. In this, I want to recall the lessons in economic policy which I learned after the war from another great man of Queen's and of Canada: W. A. Mackintosh. One of his basic theses was that economic policy and economic results accrue from many small actions. Often what is needed and what is possible is to get three, or four, or five things all moving in the right direction; each one seems small and ineffective, but the few together are mutually reinforcing and the total result is far more than the sum of the parts.
I believe that, in both Canada and the United States, an essential part of the economic strategy is to isolate those areas in which there exist clear needs for change and opportunities for marked economic improvement over the next decade. These areas are somewhat different in Canada and the United States and this is important to realize, so that we don't simply mimic the U.S., and also because many of the changes in the U.S. will affect us. It is useful for Canadians, but not essential, to learn from American experiences. In the end however, our list must be a made-in-Canada one.
I will identify a number of distortions and inefficiencies in each of the economies, some of the reasons for them, and the opportunities for improvement. I don't want to kid you that the costs and burdens of making the needed changes will be light; they won't be. There is no more a free lunch in making improvements in the structure and efficiency of economies than there is in increasing pensions, or improving housing, or filling the holes in the fabric of our income support system. And the incidence of the costs and the benefits is uneven too. Some of us may be winners and others, losers. I realize that if general economic conditions are bad, the willingness to undertake structural changes may be reduced. But I believe that in many cases the gains are worth the effort, and the adjustment problems can be coped with. Let me get down to some specifics.
The Older Utilities--Railroads, Electric Generation, Gas Production and Distribution
In both countries, these areas offer enormous opportunities and present serious challenges with respect to existing distortions and inefficiencies. But for Canada the base from which we tackle the needs in these fields is generally much more favourable than that of the United States.
In Canada, these utilities are generally publicly, or para-publicly owned. In the United States, they are privately owned but subject to heavy governmental regulation designed to prevent the firms from exercising their monopoly powers. The heart of the matter then is economic regulation on the U.S. scene, and the administration of public enterprises on the Canadian scene.
For a very long time, the bulk of these older utilities in the United States have been subject to regulation with respect to rates, service, etc. Through much of the first twenty-five years after World War II, these utilities were able to invest and meet the market demand with very modest rates of increase in cost per unit of service. On this basis, regulatory authorities built up standards and procedures and a long record of holding rates down. Such well-developed habits change very slowly. Lo and behold, in the 1970s, when technological advance slowed, nuclear plants turned out to be more costly than forecast, oil prices quadrupled and other fuel costs increased, inflation and interest costs went up, the regulatory regimes were extremely sluggish and tight-fisted in agreeing to increased utility rates.
Eventually, responses to the first oil shock were made by the regulatory authorities. But then the second shock came, along with oil and,gas deregulation in the United States and the Three Mile Island breakdown. The regulatory regime has far from adjusted yet to those changes in the United States, and, with a few notable exceptions, these industries remain troubled by poor returns on investment, weak cash flows and the inability to carry out the necessary investment for the needed supply of the 1980s and 1990s.
The story has been very different in Canada. Except for the problems of the passenger service and those associated with the Crow rates, Canadian railroads have been providing better service, at competitive prices, making fairly decent competitive rates of return and investing strongly. After the Macpherson Commission in the mid-1960s, Canada moved quite strongly toward promoting competition and reducing regulation of movement of goods by rail. These changes, together with the expansion of bulk commodity traffic and aggressive commercially oriented management go a long way toward explaining this more favourable result for Canadian railroad experience. The explanation for electrical and other utilities is different. Most of these in Canada are public rather than, as in the United States, private enterprises. They had the support of their governments as agents of economic development and the blessing of their governments in raising capital. Their main problem was seen to be one of getting a sufficient lead time on a rapidly expanding demand. Thus investment did not lag in the 1970s and early 1980s as in the United States; and this utility investment has been a major factor in helping the overall record of capital development in Canada in these years to be much larger than that in the U. S.
Canada is not without problems, however. Given the degree of government involvement in this sector, there is a danger that we have not recognized the very real costs of further utilities development. As a result we could develop capacity far beyond that which could be justified on the basis of demand based on an efficient pricing system in Canada. By encouraging consumption through artificially low prices, we could be uneconomic in the use of our real and financial factors of production.
Let me conclude this section by noting that Canada and the United States do share some problems. We, along with the U. S., face significant difficulties in finding appropriate pricing regimes for different classes of electricity users, and for the pricing of consumption at peak versus non-peak hours. Parenthetically, we should note that if the U.S. electrical utility pricing and rates of return become economically competitive, they will provide both markets and standards that point Canadian electrical utilities in the right direction.
Airlines and Trucking and Taxi-Cabs
In the spirit of being even-handed, let me turn to activities in which the distortions and inefficiencies are much worse in Canada than in the United States. Most of you are aware of the major reductions in airline regulation in the United States in 1976. Trucking deregulation has begun as well and attention is now turning to the rail transportation industry. The jury will be out for some time on the degree of changes in efficiency, cost reduction and improvement of service due to these changes in the U. S. The case has been confused by the conjuncture of higher fuel prices, high interest rates, depressed economic conditions, and technological changes along with the reform in regulation. But I am convinced that the considered judgement will be that improvements in efficiency and reductions of unit costs and prices have occurred from the deregulation compared with what would otherwise have arisen.
Canada, at least to date, has not matched the strides taken in the United States, although our rail freight regulations are already more reasonable and efficient than those south of the border, with a resultant better rail freight system. And neither country has as yet made significant efforts to deregulate taxi cabs. As you may know though, the Economic Council of Canada has made serious recommendations based on an extensive research effort which advocate less and more efficient regulation of airlines, trucking, and taxi cabs. I might emphasize that we did not advocate a carte blanche acceptance of the American solution but rather we tailored our conclusions to match the social, regional and political realities of Canada. While the resistance to these proposals, especially on the part of the affected industries, has been monumental, I remain firmly convinced that we will someday summon enough courage to tackle these difficult issues in a significant way. It may well be that competition from the increasingly efficient U. S. industries will force this approach upon us. The question is, can we afford to wait for this to happen?
Competition PolicyAnother area in which the United States has a clear and longer standing lead over the Canadian government is in the provision of an effective competition policy. At present in Canada, it is fair to say that there is virtually no effective mechanism to ensure the fairness and competitiveness of our markets. Yet the guarantee of free and effective markets is one of the primary responsibilities of government, one which could contribute greatly to the efficiency of the Canadian economy. Unlike the other areas that I have mentioned thus far, competition policy can work across the entire economy. Some sectors might not be affected at all, and in others the change might be minute in nature. But the cumulative impact over the course of years could be enormous. Again, I want to make it clear that Canada cannot simply adopt the U.S. system holus bolus. Both our economic structure and needs, and the basis of justice in Canada dictate that a made-in-Canada competition policy is the only acceptable alternative.
Financial Institutions and SavingFinance capitalism has always been regarded as the top rung of the free market ladder; and with the United States as the pinnacle of the capitalist system, the uninitiated might expect to find the most highly competitive capital market arrangements of the world in that country. One might also expect to find the strongest encouragement to the generation and the efficient use of saving.
In certain respects these expectations are fulfilled. United States financial markets are highly developed and relatively efficient in handling mergers and takeovers, recycling petrodollars, and financing speculative activity in almost every commodity. But in some respects, especially in the generation and efficient use of personal savings, the U. S. system is remarkably backward and perverse. A strong streak of Puritan antiusury ethic combined with memories of depressionera bank failures and a deep commitment to protecting the "little person" against financial manipulators have shaped the system.
Though changes are now underway, US. savings institutions have been strictly regulated as to what they could invest in, how much interest they could charge, what interest rates they could pay and so on. The system has been notorious for discouraging savings, and for diverting savings to particular channels, even though the rates of return were uncompetitive. Over and beyond this, the US. personal tax system has been sharply slanted, and still is, toward encouraging the use of credit, rather than saving. It allows, for example, interest on consumer credit and mortgages to be deducted in reckoning taxable income. Beyond this, the lending and loan guarantee activities of many US. government agencies have strongly supported a system of cheap credit for housing.
It is little wonder, therefore, that U. S. savings rates have been low, that U. S. housing investment figures have been high, and that many observers feel that these two elements are among the most important distortions in the U. S. economy. These are not the only problems however; other regulations on U. S. financial institutions have prevented the development of a nation-wide banking system, and may have slowed innovation in the provision of banking service.
In the next five years or so, the United States stands to make considerable gains--by altering its tax system to remove disincentives to saving, and by improving its system of banking regulations to match the growing needs of the U.S. economy. I should add, however, that there is one slight drawback in the recent moves toward reform of the US. financial structure; it has taken hold so quickly that it has been extraordinarily difficult for the U.S. monetary authorities to measure the changes in their monetary aggregates and to judge the tightness or ease of the system. It seems that changes to the financial regulations have made the monetary lever somewhat more difficult to manage -at least in the short-run.
The Skeleton of Growth: InfrastructureOne area in which the United States may learn from Canada is with respect to something which we in Canada take almost for granted. That is, our economic infrastructure. Throughout Canada's history, our governments have co-operated to develop and maintain a very high calibre system of roads, bridges, communications systems, and the like, often in co-operation with the private sector. Principally through measures such as shared cost and regional development programs between the federal and provincial governments, it has always been possible to ensure that the responsible levels of government were able to meet their commitments with respect to the necessary infrastructure support.
This has apparently not been the case in the United States where infrastructural development, which may have been initially supported by federal government funds, has in large part been left to state and local governments for maintenance. The state and local levels of government have not always proven capable of maintaining this infrastructure, and as a result the network of roads, bridges and so on which link the United States together, and the systems of public transportation and sewage treatment and water supplies, have deteriorated. Business Week, a magazine not given to declaring crises lightly, commented in its October 26 issue: "So serious is the decay of the nation's infrastructure and so poor the prospects for its refurbishment that many sophisticated businessmen and economists believe the US. is entering a period of severe crises for state and local government." The implications are quite clear. Without engaging in considerable efforts to help state and local governments to maintain and upgrade basic infrastructure, real economic development could be seriously eroded. Perhaps more importantly, the quality of life in the United States could decline substantially.
For Canada the problems are much less severe. Our basic economic infrastructure is sound, and we have maintained the mechanisms necessary to ensure that the various levels of government are able to meet their responsibilities. Certainly we must continue to upgrade our system, but we face nothing like the impending crisis which the U.S. must head off.
Footing the BillsThe United States infrastructural needs are matched in Canada by our enormous potential with regard to major individual investment projects. Energy is one clear area where I think we are all aware that new investments over the next decade and beyond have a good chance of providing the basis for strong economic growth. But there are many other investment requirements in transportation, further development of western agriculture, high technology growth industries, and the adaptation of existing industries. According to the Major Projects Task Force, Canada will require some $400 billion capital for major projects from now to the turn of the century, and this represents only one-fifth of the total projected investment in the economy.
The needs of the U. S. economy are likely to be equally great. Business Week estimates a need for $700 billion for infrastructure in the next ten years alone, and to this demand must be added projected increases in military spending, the great need for industrial restructuring in traditional manufacturing areas and the potential demand for new investment in the rapidly expanding sunbelt.
The long and short of this picture is that both countries face an era of unprecedented economic investment and demands for capital. To meet these demands without undue reliance on foreign capital investment will require both countries to foster their own resources, to increase personal savings and reduce government's dependence on debt financing. Moreover, as choices emerge among investment projects, both nations are going to be faced with the need to insure that the most economical projects receive the greatest priority for funds and assistance. I am not suggesting here that governments should actively intervene to ration funds. But I do suspect that governments will be playing roles in these major projects, and must therefore be extremely cautious not to tip the scales in favour of politically attractive, but low payoff investments.
As I noted earlier, by freeing up its financial system and taking steps to encourage savings, or at least to eliminate taxation prejudices against savings, the US. will be able to make significant gains. In Canada, on the other hand, we must be careful to avoid policies which discourage savings. These policies might appear attractive during short-term economic slowdowns, but their long run impacts could be devastating. The Canadian financial system must become more innovative in matching funds to the needs of its borrowers, especially in times of high and fluctuating interest rates. I am thinking here, for example, of the needs of mortgage borrowers who have been thrown unaware into what has become a large, and expensive floating crap game of fluctuating interest costs. But the business sector is also affected by these problems, and some novel and realistic approaches are required to handle the new economic realities.
Coping with InflationThe need to deal effectively with widely fluctuating interest rates is itself symptomatic of another aspect of the current and prospective economic environment--inflation. Now I am not in favour of inflation, and I think we can reduce inflation rates without the extremes of Thatcherism. But there is no way of guaranteeing that inflation will disappear overnight, or forever. Therefore it is vital that we learn, if not to live in an inflationary environment, then at least to cope with its impacts.
One area where we have made considerable gains in this regard in Canada is in terms of individual incomes. Our social welfare system is now almost fully indexed to adjust for the effects of inflation, as is the personal income tax system. However, in two areas, the employer-based pension system, and the corporate accounting system, we have been far less successful.
The Canadian pension system, including government plans and employer-based plans, is still not adequate to meet the present needs and expectations of Canadians. Part of the inadequacy stems from the relative lack of coverage offered by private pension plans, and the lack of portability of these plans which severely reduces employee mobility. But the private pension plans also generally fail to reflect adequately the impacts of inflation. This shortcoming must, and will be resolved eventually. Either private schemes must change or, as some are advocating, the government's Canada Pension Plan or some other governmental system will be expanded. The status quo is unacceptable.
Room for improvement also exists with respect to the problem of adjusting corporate profits to reflect the impacts of inflation on asset values, costs and profits. I won't burden you here today with yet another description of the perfidious impacts of inflation on businesses, of how inflation distorts corporate tax positions, cash flows, and undermines the investment decision process. Nor will I indulge the temptation to reflect on the various options which are available to ameliorate these effects. But I do want to make it very clear that the failure to cope with the effects of inflation within the framework of the measurement and taxation of business income could seriously erode the investment potential of Canada and the United States in the future.
ConclusionI have far from exhausted the list of areas where I think improvements in efficiency and reductions of distortions are possible and necessary. I haven't discussed areas of regulation, such as in agricultural products for example. I have not as yet made a dent on the special problems and needs of specific regions and sectors of the Canadian and United States economies. I have not even mentioned the scope which exists to reform the social welfare system to improve it as a set of social programs as well as to improve economic performance.
In all of these areas, and others, exist scope for the small changes which will cumulatively strengthen our economies.
These small changes are certainly not politically sexy. They will not excite masses to march on Parliament. These changes are not simplistic solutions. Finding the appropriate policies is going to be a matter of research and hard analysis and a high order of political skill and commitment. But taken together, these small changes can make a major difference to the economic development of Canada and the United States over the next decade or so. The time is ripe to make a beginning.
My priority list for the United States would include better rates of return in electrical utilities and railroads, reform of financial regulation, promotion of personal saving, strengthening of state and local government finance, deregulation of natural gas production and distribution, and a more economical use of government credit to support private activities.
My priority list for Canada is very different. It includes tougher efficiency tests for our electrical utilities, solution of the Crow rate problem, less regulation of airlines and trucking, a less regulatory solution to the problems of Canada's farmers, maintenance of saving, continuation of the existing strengths of Canada's provincial and local government finance, improvement of housing finance, reform of business taxation and of private pensions.
Harry Johnson, perhaps the greatest economist Canada has produced, wrote in one of his many essays of the legend of two giants named Gog and Magog whose fate it was to run around the world throughout eternity. Gog ran around the world forwards, never seeing where he had been. Magog circled the globe in reverse, never seeing where he was going but knowing full well where he had travelled. Neither of these giants would be successful at plotting a course for Canada over the next decade. But the two together would be one heck of a team. Our requirement is to be able to look back over where we have been, to see what we have done and learn from our experiences. And we have to be prepared to look realistically to the future, to see the pitfalls in advance and prepare accordingly. It won't be easy. But it will be worthwhile.
The thanks of the club were expressed to Dr. Slater by John Herrick, a Director of The Empire Club of Canada.